Buying a New Car on
the Internet
Buying a new car online usually means that
you end up getting in touch with a local dealership to
finalize the purchase. The online part is where you do
research gather information to prepare yourself
for the purchase (and save a good deal of money as a result).
The dealership part is where you move from the virtual
world of information into the real world of bumpers, tires
and salesmen.
You can use the Internet to gather information
about vehicles, arrange your financing in advance, and
save money on insurance. But you want to actually test-drive
the car, see its color for yourself, feel its leg room,
examine the trunk space, and otherwise physically engage
the machine at a dealership. And you sometimes must negotiate
prices both for the trade-in and the new car
with a real salesperson.
For these reasons, online car-buying services
are often mainly referral-services they put you
in touch with a dealer in your area. The difference between
the online approach and traditional car buying is that
you meet the dealer already prepared. You can, therefore,
greatly reduce the amount of time that you spend at the
dealership and the amount of negotiation necessary to
secure the deal. And above all, you can greatly reduce
the price that you pay for a vehicle. Going online to
buy a car is really a smart move.
TIP
At the time that you first visit the dealer to test drive
the car, ask for a blank copy of the dealer's standard
contract. Now, however, isn't yet the time for negotiation.
You want to go home and, in the peace and quiet of your
bubble bath or whatever, read the thing and circle any
bad or confusing spots. You're then even better prepared
when you return to the dealership for the final negotiations.
This tactic is yet another way to do your homework before
you get down to the real nitty-gritty of negotiation.
You're making two trips to the dealer instead of just
one, which gives you a significant advantage over just
checking things out and making the deal in a single visit.
Sure, a few companies actually do sell cars
online, and you never need meet with a real human being
to complete the transaction with such online dealers.
But these few direct-sales businesses are primarily either
credit unions, fleet-sales outfits, or brokers.
WARNING!
Car sales are probably second only to liquor sales in
the number of laws governing the transaction. What's more,
many of these laws currently rule out auto sales to consumers
across state lines.
The companies that people widely use and
know on the Internet, such as Autobytel and CarPoint,
don't actually sell cars themselves. They merely put you
in touch with a dealer. You then finalize the purchase
at the dealership.
Several other chapters in this site show
you how to do your homework finding financing,
insurance, the car that best suits you, the dealer cost
of that car, the value of your trade-in, and so on.
In this chapter, I assume that you've done
the homework. You've even gone so far as to take my advice
and have already chosen a nearby dealer (for convenient
servicing and maintenance) and a dealer large enough to
make negotiations as flexible as possible. What's more,
you've visited the dealer and taken a test drive
finalizing your selection by actually experiencing the
car in the real world.
This chapter, therefore, focuses on your
actually buying a car the point where you finalize
the negotiations with the salesperson and pay some money.
Before getting into the details of completing the deal,
however, I'm first going to look at some of the cars that
other people are choosing. If you've already decided on
your dream car, the following lists may reinforce that
decision. If you haven't yet decided, however, perhaps
checking out a few top-ten lists may inspire you.
Joining the Crowd
If you read some of the other chapters in
this book that tell you how to narrow your selection of
a new car, but you still can't make up your mind, maybe
you just need to go with the crowd.
If you're like most people, you sometimes buy a book or
a record simply because it's a bestseller. You figure
that sheer numbers of sales must indicate satisfied customers.
Popularity, after all, counts. If you can't make up your
mind, taking a look at how others made up theirs sometimes
helps.
Can the Internet help you determine which
new cars are currently selling the best? (The answer is
yes.) Which cars are the favorites of GenX buyers or of
fat-cat Boomers? Is the Earth round?
To find out which new cars are the most
requested at the CarPoint site for the past 12 months,
open your Web browser and go to www.carpoint.msn.com,
CarPoint's home page. Click the Table of Contents link.
Then, in the Featured Articles section, click CarPoint
User's Top Ten.
After You Get to the Dealer
After you finish your online research and
decide on a vehicle to purchase, you're ready to take
up arms and march right in on a dealer and avoid
getting slammed. With the advice that I offer in this
site, along with all your online research, you can now
give the dealer a few hundred dollars profit on the sale
(instead of a few thousand). A few hundred dollars, after
all, is plenty of profit for the few hours the dealer
spends as you test and then negotiate terms for the new
car.
Say that, thanks to your research, you already
know what car, what accessories, and what options you
want. You've already arranged insurance and financing
online. You know the dealer cost of the car you're after,
and you're prepared to ask to see the factory invoice.
(See, however, the following Warning.) Three steps to
a successful purchase remain. The first step is to discuss
and finalize the money that you're to get for your trade-in.
For most of us, the trade-in provides the down payment.
That's a very good reason to insist on getting a fair
price. Most new car buyers, however, get the shaft during
the trade-in negotiation.
WARNING!
I'm repeating this warning from previous chapters so that
you're not negotiating in a dreamland. You must get an
accurate dealer cost of the car that you're buying. If
you get a new-car dealer-price quote from an Internet
source, it's merely an estimated dealer cost. This figure
can be a low-ball estimate by several hundred dollars.
Why? It can exclude extra options, import fees, gas charges,
possible extra advertising costs, and so on. At the dealership,
ask to see the actual factory invoice for the car that
you're buying. This figure is usually higher than the
prices you get on the Internet for the standard models.
Don't decide your final offer merely on the estimated
dealer-invoice price that you find on the Internet.
Don't give away you trade-in
All too many people (most people, in fact)
quickly cave in if a dealer offers a really, really low
price for their trade-in. In the typical trade-in example
that I describe in the following section, if you agree
to the salesperson's "considered offer," you
lose money by being either too timid or too uninformed
about auto negotiating. Saving you this ridiculous waste
of good money is the topic of this section.
If you're trading in your existing car,
your first step in negotiating at the dealership is to
agree on the trade-in price. The reasons are two: The
salesperson is unlikely to start the negotiations with
this topic, so you gain immediate control of the negotiation
process. More important, most people, after buying a new
car, worry that they got too little for their trade-in.
Why? Because they did get too little.
Most people perhaps spend a couple of hours
haggling over the details of the new car they're buying,
and then almost everything is set for them to leave the
lot in the shiny new car they now love. Only one ittle
detail remains: What do they get for their existing car?
At this point, most people cave and accept the (pitiful)
offer that the salesperson provides along with
a song-and-dance about how "offering this price is
common these days" or "the moon is in the seventh
house" or "our mechanic reports rusting on the
undercarriage" or whatever.
No goose this year
You can find used car prices in the Blue
Book. Three prices are available for used cars. Imagine,
for example, that your car lists for a used retail price
at $12,000. It's then likely to list for around, say,
$9,000 wholesale, with an auction price of about $8,300.
A salesperson is likely to offer you around $5,700 and,
if you scream and moan, the salesperson may go up to $6,500,
weeping all the way about what the sales manager is going
to do after this shockingly high price becomes general
knowledge. (No Christmas goose for his son Tiny Tim this
year. Thanks to you.)
Find out the Blue Book value and the Black Book value
before you start negotiations. You want to know what the
dealer can sell your car for and remember that
the auction value is a rock-bottom value. If the dealer
offers $5,700 (using the examples that I give in the preceding
paragraph), you counter with $9,000, the wholesale value.
Then you can allow the salesperson to whittle you down
to a couple hundred dollars more than the auction price
of $8,300.
Just add the word firm
Don't accept any amount lower than the auction price for
your trade-in (unless you have a really good reason, such
as that the entire undercarriage is really rusting). If
necessary, extract your current car from the negotiation
process. You can almost always easily get the auction
price by putting a classified ad in the paper phoning
in the ad and including the word "firm" so that
you don't need to haggle with strangers isn't that big
of a deal. At the auction price, moreover, you can be
firm. Someone almost certainly is going to buy it unless
you live in some remote Wyoming outback, in which case
your negotiation strategies must take geographical extremity
into account.
After you save yourself two or three thousand
dollars on the trade-in, you can let the sales process
move on to Step Two: the cost of the car that you're buying
(including all options and accessories everything).
Negotiating the price
Not everyone pays the same price buying
the same car at the same dealership. Remember that fact.
Unlike most cultures, most Americans simply aren't accustomed
to haggling. From lack of practice, they're not good at
it. And they tend to think that it makes them look cheap,
stubborn, pushy, disagreeable, or impolite or some
combination of these traits.
Unless, however, you're willing to learn
the rules of negotiating a low price, you want to pay
someone else to negotiate for you (see the section "If
You Simply Can't Negotiate," later in this chapter),
or you really want one of those new no-haggle cars (in
other words, a Saturn) expect to lose hundreds
and maybe even thousands of dollars on the price of your
new car.
People pay different prices
People pay different prices for the same car. You can
pay top dollar, or you can pay close to dealer cost
or you can pay somewhere in between. Bad negotiators may
give the dealer $3,000 in profit; great negotiators may
give the dealer $300 in profit. Obviously, salesmen and
dealers prefer to get $3,000 from everyone but
experience shows that they can expect a spectrum of profit
depending on how the customer behaves during the process.
If you're polite, persistent, and prepared you
can usually drive the price down near the low end of the
spectrum.
If you follow the steps that I outline earlier
in this chapter, you're likely to get a good price from
the dealer for your trade-in (or you do after you sell
it yourself through the classifieds). Now to complete
the process of buying the new car. This point is where
you discuss and finalize the price of your
new car.
The dealer is likely to begin negotiations
with the full list price, acting as if that amount's understood
as the selling price. I repeat: Remember to proceed with
the negotiations at your own pace and remain ready at
all times to walk. But always stay friendly and polite.
You usually get better results if you don't make an enemy.
Stay polite, yet firm
My favorite tactic is courteous firmness. You do your
homework and you know what price you're willing to pay.
Respond to the dealer's first offer with whatever price
you've already decided you're willing to pay. One tactic
is to simply, politely make your first and final offer.
You can sit there and dicker, but make quite plain to
the dealer that, no matter what happens, you've already
researched the price and you've already made your one
and only offer. Other experts suggest making a low offer
and then gradually giving in to the salesperson's attempts
to bring you up to your final offer. Whatever approach
you take, make sure that the dealer's clear that you're
a serious buyer and always remain calm and pleasant.
If you feel pressure from the salesperson
and become uncomfortable, you can always ask for a different
salesperson at that dealership. Or you can leave and take
your business elsewhere.
You don't need to explain your personal
preferences in a car or describe your lifestyle, your
hopes, and your fears. You don't need to make friends
with the salesperson or the supervisor. You've arrived
at the dealership with a precise idea of what you're willing
to pay for a particular car. You know exactly which options
and accessories you want (and don't want). You're paying
cash you have a check in hand because you've already
arranged the financing. You don't need to worry about
insurance because that's finalized. You've already decided
whether you want an extended warranty and what to pay
for that. You've reduced all the variables to one: How
long does the salesperson take to realize that you're
not going to change your offer?
In fact, all you need to tell the salesperson is that
you're willing to pay X dollars for X car with X accessories.
It's a simple, straightforward few hundred dollars for
the dealership to make. Make the dealer aware that he's
dealing with an Internet buyer. In other words, the dealer
has a new kind of customer: someone who knows just what
he wants and is already decided on just what he's willing
to pay for it. And if you take that advice that I give
you earlier in this chapter, you've already studied a
copy of the dealer's contract and made a note of any questions
that you want the dealer to clear up before you sign the
deal.
If you simply can't neqotiate
If you absolutely can't stand negotiation
but realize that, by avoiding it, you may cost yourself
as much as $2,000 or more when purchasing a new car, consider
hiring an auto consultant (also known as a buyer's agent)
who can do the dirty work for you. The cost of such a
consultant can prove remarkably reasonable, considering
the savings that you get in cash and the burden the agent
lifts from those who were trained from day one to avoid
conflict at all costs. And the operative word here is
costs if you're overly passive about negotiating.
Can you find such consultants on the Internet?
Well, the Internet hosts almost every possible topic.
If you can imagine a profession, a service or a topic,
you're likely to find it available on the Internet, as
the following sections confirm.
Try the National Association
of Buyers' Associates
One good resource if you want to hire an agent is the
National Association of Buyers' Associates (at www.naba.com
on the Web).
AutoAdvisor can help you
negotiate
Another good online source of auto buyers' agents is AutoAdvisor
(at www.autoadvisor.com
on the Web).
Going, Going, Gone! Using
Online Auto Auctions
Although you don't currently find new-car
auctions on the Web, you can buy a used car via online
auctions. And now and then you can find at an online auction
a used car that's "almost new" (very low mileage).
Some experts claim that if money is your main concern,
buying a low-mileage pre-owned car is the greatest bargain
going.
Why can't you find new-car auctions online
yet? Congressional politicians, or lawmakers as they sometimes
prefer us to call them, keep on making laws! (No surprise
there.) They've made laws governing interstate sales of
new autos, and those laws seriously restrict such sales
to individuals and that includes through online
auctions. This situation may change in the future, however,
as these lawmakers are in the business of making laws,
so they sometimes pass new legislation that rescinds their
previous legislation.
WARNING!
You, the consumer, face another little problem with buying
cars through online auctions: The important test-drive
portion of a new-car purchase is usually impossible. Going
to eBay to buy a cookbook is fine if the description
of the cookbook fails to mention that the index is torn
out and grease splatters cover many of the pages, you're
out only a few bucks. But how can you explain yourself
if you spend thousands of dollars on a car with serious
flaws and then must spend thousands more repairing those
flaws? Remember the advice of your grandfather, the farmer:
Never buy a pig in a poke.
Auctions R Us: eBay sells
cars
Speaking of eBay, the grand old leader of
online auctioning added a special vehicle-auction page
to its other auction wares back in August 1999. Some cars
were put up for auction at eBay before this official recognition,
but now eBay offers this section of its site solely for
vehicle auction sales. You can find ordinary vehicles
here as well as a special "Showroom" featuring
classic cars.
To access eBay's auto zone, first go to
eBay's home page (at www.ebay.com
on the Web) and then click the Automotive link.
The week that I checked, eBay was offering
1,545 cars, 549 trucks, and 139 RVs at auction, as well
as hundreds of motorcycles.
If you're not familiar with the eBay auctioning process,
you can easily learn about it by connecting to eBay. They
offer excellent help and tutorials.
Online auctioning at
Microsoft Network
If the possibility of finding a real bargain
in a car at an online auction attracts you, in spite of
the potential difficulties that I describe in the preceding
section, check out the Microsoft Network's auction site
(at www.auctions.msn.com/html
/cat17466/pagel.htm on the Web).
If you go to the MSN car auction site, you're
probably going to find its features a little familiar
if you've ever bought something from eBay or other online
auction sites.
New-vehicle auctions
Rolling Wheels, a very interesting online
vehicle-auction site, now actually offers new vehicles
and also provides for test driving before you buy. The
site puts you in touch with one of its "member dealers"
in your area so that you can drive the model you want
to bid on to see whether it's what you're after. To discover
what the Rolling Wheels auction site offers, go to www.rollingwheels.com
on the Web.
This site describes itself in the following manner: "Your
new-vehicle auction center. The most hassle-free way to
by your next new car. If you buy a vehicles from Rollingwheels.com,
you set your price and we gurrantee that you're in and
out of the dealership in 60 minutes or less. You set your
own price because and sell all our vehicles using our
exclusive auction format."